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Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Corsa 1999 1.2 16V ecotec. Starttauksen jälkeen kierrokset putoaa hetkeksi tosi alas. Kone melkein sammuu, mutta ei ihan. Hetkeä myöhemmin pelaa taas sitten ihan normaalisti. Ei muuta häikkää havaittavissa ainakaan toistaiseksi
Mistähän tässä voisi olla kyse? Ominaisuus vai vika?
Mistähän tässä voisi olla kyse? Ominaisuus vai vika?
Re: Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Syttyykö vikavalo ??
Noissa on ongelmaa kaasuläpän säätimen kanssa. Saattaa toki olla kaasuläppä ja läppäkotelo vain likainen.
Field Remedy: 1311
Subject: Engine - Stalls
Models: Engines: Option:
Corsa-B 97.5...2000,Astra-G 98...2000 X10XE| X12XE,X12XE
Complaint: Engine stalls when idling, possibly in combination with DTC 0505.
Cause: Calibration problem, may lead to throttle valve adjuster.
Production:
Remedy:
With TECH 2 install new engine control unit software as of TIS 2000
or TIS CD 6.
If necessary, replace throttle valve adjuster.
If the engine problem can not be eleminate by carrying out the
Field Remedy 1311, use Field Remedy 1356 to eleminate the engine problem.
FunctionalGroup: J - Engine
Complaint Group: 19 - Poor Engine Driveability
Trouble Code: P0505
Field Remedy: 1356
Subject: Throttle Valve Adjuster - Voltage high
Models: Engines: Option:
Corsa-B 97...2000,Astra-G 98...2000 X10XE| X12XE,X12XE None
Complaint: The Engine management light comes on and the engine runs rough and stalls. TECH2 test showed stored Trouble Code of P0505 "present idle air control voltage high".
Cause: Voltage of air control valve high.
Production:
Remedy:
In case of customer complaint, replace Throttle Valve Adjuster and Adapter
Cable by modified parts.
Parts: Part-No.: Catalog-Nr.:
Throttle Valve Adjuster 09199907 90 08 977
Adapter cable 93170485 90 12 037
Labour Times: TC: Hours:
T 8 135 60 Replace Throttle 92 0.7
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Corsa-B X10XE LHD/RHD
T 8 135 61 Replace Throttle 92 0.8
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Corsa-B X12XE LHD/RHD
T 8 135 62 Replace Throttle 92 0.8
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Astra-G X12XE LHD/RHD
The costs for this repair will be covered for vehicles not older than 3 years
and a mileage lower than 100.000 Km.
The regular warranty procedure should be used for claiming Set-up-time.
Please note:
Only in cases where the above procedure does not mend the problem proceed as
follows:
1. Check if ECU is dated before or after breakpoint check ECU-labeling or
engine-number.
ECU breakpoints:
Corsa-B X10XE - FD 966113,
Corsa-B X12XE - FD 966114,
Astra-G X12XE - FD 082119.
The 1st digit indicates the production year 9=1999.
The 3rd digit indicates the production month 6=June.
For example: 966113 = June 1999
082119 = Feb. 2000
If ECU is dated before breakpoint, ECU has to be changed.
2. Install new ECU
- see working procedure "Engine Control Unit, Remove and
Install", Unit "J", in the corresponding Service
Instructions.
Parts: Part-No.: Catalog-Nr.:
ECU Corsa-B (X10XE) 09164450 62 37 039
ECU Corsa-B (X12XE) 09164454 62 37 040
ECU Astra-G (X12XE) 09131795 62 37 765
FunctionalGroup: J - Engine
Complaint Group: 19 - Poor Engine Driveability
Trouble Code: None
Noissa on ongelmaa kaasuläpän säätimen kanssa. Saattaa toki olla kaasuläppä ja läppäkotelo vain likainen.
Field Remedy: 1311
Subject: Engine - Stalls
Models: Engines: Option:
Corsa-B 97.5...2000,Astra-G 98...2000 X10XE| X12XE,X12XE
Complaint: Engine stalls when idling, possibly in combination with DTC 0505.
Cause: Calibration problem, may lead to throttle valve adjuster.
Production:
Remedy:
With TECH 2 install new engine control unit software as of TIS 2000
or TIS CD 6.
If necessary, replace throttle valve adjuster.
If the engine problem can not be eleminate by carrying out the
Field Remedy 1311, use Field Remedy 1356 to eleminate the engine problem.
FunctionalGroup: J - Engine
Complaint Group: 19 - Poor Engine Driveability
Trouble Code: P0505
Field Remedy: 1356
Subject: Throttle Valve Adjuster - Voltage high
Models: Engines: Option:
Corsa-B 97...2000,Astra-G 98...2000 X10XE| X12XE,X12XE None
Complaint: The Engine management light comes on and the engine runs rough and stalls. TECH2 test showed stored Trouble Code of P0505 "present idle air control voltage high".
Cause: Voltage of air control valve high.
Production:
Remedy:
In case of customer complaint, replace Throttle Valve Adjuster and Adapter
Cable by modified parts.
Parts: Part-No.: Catalog-Nr.:
Throttle Valve Adjuster 09199907 90 08 977
Adapter cable 93170485 90 12 037
Labour Times: TC: Hours:
T 8 135 60 Replace Throttle 92 0.7
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Corsa-B X10XE LHD/RHD
T 8 135 61 Replace Throttle 92 0.8
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Corsa-B X12XE LHD/RHD
T 8 135 62 Replace Throttle 92 0.8
Valve Adjuster and
set throttle valve
0-degree position.
Install adapter cable.
Astra-G X12XE LHD/RHD
The costs for this repair will be covered for vehicles not older than 3 years
and a mileage lower than 100.000 Km.
The regular warranty procedure should be used for claiming Set-up-time.
Please note:
Only in cases where the above procedure does not mend the problem proceed as
follows:
1. Check if ECU is dated before or after breakpoint check ECU-labeling or
engine-number.
ECU breakpoints:
Corsa-B X10XE - FD 966113,
Corsa-B X12XE - FD 966114,
Astra-G X12XE - FD 082119.
The 1st digit indicates the production year 9=1999.
The 3rd digit indicates the production month 6=June.
For example: 966113 = June 1999
082119 = Feb. 2000
If ECU is dated before breakpoint, ECU has to be changed.
2. Install new ECU
- see working procedure "Engine Control Unit, Remove and
Install", Unit "J", in the corresponding Service
Instructions.
Parts: Part-No.: Catalog-Nr.:
ECU Corsa-B (X10XE) 09164450 62 37 039
ECU Corsa-B (X12XE) 09164454 62 37 040
ECU Astra-G (X12XE) 09131795 62 37 765
FunctionalGroup: J - Engine
Complaint Group: 19 - Poor Engine Driveability
Trouble Code: None
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Re: Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Merkkivaloissa ei näy mielestäni mitään erikoista. Olin nyt huomaavinani, että kierrosten pudotus tulee vain ekalla starttaamisella seisotuksen jälkeen. Tosin koneen ei tarvi olla täysin kylmä edellisen ajon jäljiltä, varmaan vartin tai puolen tunnin seisotus riittää... Jos sammuttaa ajosta ja starttaa heti uudestaan, toimii ihan normaalisti 
Re: Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Lämpötilahan tuossa näyttää vaikutavan, mutta paha sanoa tarkalleen mihin. Katsoisin kuitenkin enimmäiseksi sinne kaasuläppäkoteloon ja kaasuläppää ja jo likaiselta näyttää, niin puhdistaisin.
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Re: Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Lisähavainto kun tehtiin tällä kulkineella ensimmäinen hieman pidempi reissu (n. 50 km sivu). Reippaamman moottoritievedätyksen (110...120 km/h) jälkeen alkoi nypytellä pintakaasulla vajaan satasen nopeudessa. Sain tämän ilmiön parikin kertaa esiin. Takaisin tullessa ja rajoitusten mukaan rauhallisesti ja tasaisesti ajaessa ei nykimisiä juurikaan ollut...?
Re: Corsa B:n starttausprobleemi
Saattaisi johtua moottorin(jäähdytysnesteen) lämpötila-anturista , joka antaa moottoriohjaukselle tiedon moottorin lämpötilasta.
Field Remedy: 1316
Subject: Temperature sensor - None or insufficient function
Models: Engines: Option:
Astra-G 1998...2000,Corsa-B 1997,5...2000 X12XE,X10XE| X12XE
Complaint: While driving engine jerking may occur and in case of irregular idle speed, the engine may stall. The engine shows bad starting characteristics.
Cause: Relative movement in the area of the coolant temperature-sensor resulting in damaged contact pins.
Production:
Remedy:
In case of customer complaint replace the wiring harness of coolant
temperature sensor and replace mating connector on the wiring harness.
Moottorin lämpötila - anturi löytyy jakoketjun puoleista päästä moottoria... ilmamassamittarin johtosarjan läheisyydestä.
Field Remedy: 1316
Subject: Temperature sensor - None or insufficient function
Models: Engines: Option:
Astra-G 1998...2000,Corsa-B 1997,5...2000 X12XE,X10XE| X12XE
Complaint: While driving engine jerking may occur and in case of irregular idle speed, the engine may stall. The engine shows bad starting characteristics.
Cause: Relative movement in the area of the coolant temperature-sensor resulting in damaged contact pins.
Production:
Remedy:
In case of customer complaint replace the wiring harness of coolant
temperature sensor and replace mating connector on the wiring harness.
Moottorin lämpötila - anturi löytyy jakoketjun puoleista päästä moottoria... ilmamassamittarin johtosarjan läheisyydestä.
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